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In our Ismaili tariqah, we have 50 holy Pirs.

My question is that our 7th Pir Nurin (Pir Satgur Noor a.s.) came to India during period of our 18th Imam Mustansibirllah(a.s.).

Why there is difference between generation of Pir and Imam?
or Do we have more Pirs which are not in list (but Noor of Muhammad Mustafa s.a.s.)?

1. Pir Nabi Muhammad
2. Pir Hazrat Hasan
3. Pir Qasim Shah
4. Pir Jaffer Shah
5. Pir Zainu'l - Abidin
6. Pir Amir Ahmed
7. Pir Nurdin
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Pir Nurdin was not Pir Satgur Nur.
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My question is that our 7th Pir Nurin (Pir Satgur Noor a.s.) came to India during period of our 18th Imam Mustansibirllah(a.s.).
You are making mistake here Avroz, these two pirs are different pirs, our 7th pir Noordin never came in India nor he composed any ginans.
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Tht's the reason why i was getting confuesd......thnx kmaher bhai and agakhani bhai for clearing my doubt.....ok one last question so who is Pir satgur noor..i dont see name on list of pirs...i mean what number name is on...
sorry for asking stupid queries all time...
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avrozmaredia wrote:Tht's the reason why i was getting confuesd......thnx kmaher bhai and agakhani bhai for clearing my doubt.....ok one last question so who is Pir satgur noor..i dont see name on list of pirs...i mean what number name is on...
sorry for asking stupid queries all time...
Pir Satgur Noor's name was Mohammed Nooruddin ( please excuse the spelling)
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Tht's the reason why i was getting confuesd......thnx kmaher bhai and agakhani bhai for clearing my doubt.....ok one last question so who is Pir satgur noor..i dont see name on list of pirs...i mean what number name is on...
Brother you don't have to confuse, Shams already give the name of Pir Satgur Noor but I am giving you more detail about our 1st pir who visited India first time, history revels that he visited many parts of India including Anhilvad (Patan) near Sidhpur and converted 'Momana' Jamat surrounding Patan and Sidhpur, he also visited Hyderabad, Dakkan and South India but there is no evidence that he ever visited Punjab or Sind.
Name:- Noor Mohammad Shah.
Known as: Hazarat Pir Satgur Noor.
Father Name:- Pir Hasham Shah Ibne Pir Ahmad Hadi (r.a.) through Hazarat ismail Ibne Hazarat Imam Jaffar Sadiq (s.a.).
Mother name:- Aamena Binte Syed Husain.
Wife name:- Palandevi.
Death of Birth:- Friday, 15th, ( Shaban ) h.s. 425/ year 1034; Sanvat 1090 Place of birth:- Al- Kahira , Misar, ( Egypt)
Imam at his time:- Imam Musatansiribillah.
Death & Dargah: Navsari, Gujarat, India.
Miracles pir performed:- 1, Forced and make them to dace to Hindu idols in Patan.
2, Bring water in dry well.
3, Gave son blessing to a minister he didn;t have any kids.
4, Stayed in forest and make all wild animals obedience and calm.

Total Ginan composed: Elevan, there are few popular ginans which are still reciting in JK.

1, Kalma Kahore Momno. (popular)
2, Jire vira Aa ghate swas Ushah.
3, Ke Jire vira kanak Kachol keshar gholiya.
4, Eji Pahele palo te satgur ni vacha. (popular)
5, Pachhal thi dal aavshe. sen sankh nu ant nahi par. (popular)
6, Purakh Pachham thi hi saav. Jampudipe aaviyaji,.
7, Eji Bhaio bahrme na bhuliye, vira nav bhuliye.
8, Ke jire vira Mandav viva man kari mahaljo.
9, Lagire jene man vishe, tene antarma lije.
10, Eji Satgur padharya tame jagajo, ruda munivar bhai. (popular)
11,Jire vira satpanth sacho jaliye.
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Thanks for the link and information. Its very interesting.
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avrozmaredia wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:42 am Tht's the reason why i was getting confuesd......thnx kmaher bhai and agakhani bhai for clearing my doubt.....ok one last question so who is Pir satgur noor..i dont see name on list of pirs...i mean what number name is on...
sorry for asking stupid queries all time...
However Pir Nurdin was also known, according to al Waez Abualy Missionary) as Pir Satgurnur though he was different from the one of Navsari.
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