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Would anyone argue that the intention of those who compiled (an extremely difficult task it self)and published this book was anything less than noble. There was no desire or expectation of glory from the Jamat. They went to extraordinary lengths to stay anonymous. The result of their act was disapp...

In my opinion the true Ismailis should ignore all these trash. Sun can not hide no matter how hard any one try to hide it. Do not discuss or debate with anti-Ismaili person or groups about our religion and MHI, and one of day they will know who were on right path. The best way is stop reading or wa...

brother samir, now i will give you few examples , which are facts ..ok ? a kamadiya was appointed by allah[imam] few years ago .....after one year this so called kamadiya was found cheating on kamyani.....didnt allah knew that this kamadiya will cause shame and disrespect to his office ?? a mukhi w...

Ya Ali Madad, Some of the Ismaili facebook pages recently have been attacked by Sunni/Shia people who are attacking the character of our Imam and our practices. For some reason, the administrator/creator of the facebook page is not doing anything to stop this and its been going on for a few days. He...

YAYM..."The Suras are in the wrong order. So are most of the ayats. This should be evidenced by 5:3 and 5:67 being in reversed order, when they should be the other way around and much closer to each other...." Just the chronological order is flawed or is there much more to it ? and what t...

I would suggest reading the entire post before replying. I said: "You do not need to interpret it literally, however there is meaning to be derived from it." I do not interpret it literally because I do not believe that every non-Isma'ili is destined for hell fire. However, there is meani...

The Suras are in the wrong order. So are most of the ayats. This should be evidenced by 5:3 and 5:67 being in reversed order, when they should be the other way around and much closer to each other.

tariqa is a way of doing something. the way I define tariqa, in our context, is a "way of practicing religion." Hence, a way of practicing Islam. Since a preamble is required in order to define tariqa, that is why I identify religion first. You identify based on the preamble, fine. Howeve...

YAYM, As far as I believe, we are not just an esoteric faith, if you will...most of what we do in JKs is part of our Sharia ! We have four levels - not just one ! I do not see any reason why we cannot also talk literally? where does it say we cannot ? i may be a "child" - perhaps not ! in...

There are two Adams often referred to (in Qur'an as well, however not explicitly). There is Hazrat Adam (biblical Adam) who was the 'first' human being in this world. However, Hazrat Adam was not the first human being in the world, rather the first of a new era/time (in ginans this is called kal jug...

"...And verily I say unto you, he who denies any one of Us, hath denied God....." i.e. Ali and his pure descendants ! "...I am the one who shall face the children of Adam on the Day of Judgement and shall bring them to account and shall direct them to their habitations. ..." Ali...

YAYM, Actually you are making irrelevant arguments without laying a proper foundation....you say SETH was an Imam...okay prove it and lay a groundwork for readers to know that there ever existed an Imam called SETH....simply making statements does not mean people can accept what you say as a gospel...

YAYM, Several verses in the Quran speak about the Light of God and Rope of Imamat which is a continuous chain (Hablillah) since Hazrat Adam, through all the Prophets including, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and after him through the hereditary Imams." Here again.. since Hazrat Adam? Ye...

tariqa is a way of doing something. the way I define tariqa, in our context, is a "way of practicing religion." Hence, a way of practicing Islam. Since a preamble is required in order to define tariqa, that is why I identify religion first. You identify based on the preamble, fine. Howeve...

Maybe this might help the discussion.. When I am asked what religion I belong to, my answer is ALWAYS "Muslim" regardless if I am talking to a Muslim, Christian, anything. Just like we are human. A human is a human, regardless of the race he or she belongs to. Likewise, a muslim is a musl...

YAYM, otherwise Imamat is not a new phenomena and goes back in time to Prophet Abraham and Adam perhaps. ! Perhaps??? This is all I needed to read. It shows that you need to read more about our tariqah and about Imamat specifically. Your post has no relevance whatsoever to illustrating that we are ...

Biryani, Now I can see the first signs of the flu !!! Your own knowledge is limited....your language skills are mediocre....and so rather than having the honesty to concede and be truthful, you are trying to portray the opposite....do you think others in this forum are as lacking as you are? some o...

Yes we are Muslime first, and our religion is Islam, but we are Ismailis There are 73 sect in Islam and Ismaili is one of them which is right path (siratal Mustkim) and you should be proud about that. I think if we were to order things we would be 'Imami' first. The Imam precedes the perfection of ...

Thanks, kmaherali. According to my interpretation of that excerpt, I dont get the impression that Hazir Imam is saying we are Muslim first, Ismaili second in an ordinal sense.. particularly not in the connotation that several Ismailis tend to suggest. Dont get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you s...

Ya Ali Madad, I had a debate with a friend who said that Hazir Imam has made a farman saying that we are Muslim first, Ismaili second. I have a hard time believing this, but he says that he has heard this farman before. Do any of you know of such a farman and can provide a source (place/date)? Thanks.

If it was from the memoirs then it was not a Farman. Remember that the memoirs and farmans are two different things. The Memoirs is for a wider audience and will communicate things with respect to that. For example, Krishna is referred to as a divinely inspired messenger to the public in the memoirs...

<P>The Ginans state that Prophet Muhammad is the Avatara of Brahma and that Imam 'Ali is the Avatara of Vishnu.<BR><BR>Therefore, the Nubuwwa is the manifestation of Brahma and the Imamat is that of Vishnu.<BR><BR>Shiva is the Destroyer -&nbsp;but not in the sense of evil, but in the sense of t...

for some reason i agree with biryani because it is very clearly mentioned in quran that fasting is a must no matter you are shia/sunni/ismaili etc etc... Here is 48th Imam, Mowlana Sultan Mahomed Shah's view: "The healthy human body is the temple in which the flame of the Holy Spirit burns, an...

In the qasida dam hama dam Ali Ali there is mention of Khidr however Rumi is saying that Mowlana Ali is Khidr's guide, which implies that Khidr may not have been Imam. However, from hadiths we learn that Khidr was from the beginning of time and will be there till the end of time. Also, Khidr gave me...

Admin, Forget about your experience in Syria (Aleppo) in 2001 on discrimination forget about your experience on discrimination in Dhandhuka, Gujarat and forget about the big talk you are writing in this website on discrimination but I think you are doing big discrimination in your own ISMAILI.NET w...

Thank you for your replies. I checked out those links I want o ask some more questions about Ismailism. Please answer them. 1. Do Ismailis believe in the existence of Angels and Jinn? 2. Do Ismailis believe that an Imam has knowledge of everything? 3. Do Ismailis outside the Indian subcontinent hav...

Yes, I agree with you here in both accounts. I'm very drawn to Ismailism, though with some questions and reservations. Because of my Sufi involvement I am aware of the idea of transmission from 'Ali (a) and usually 7 or 8 other imams down through the shuyukh. To me this is somewhat logical because ...

A couple of things I would like to clear and reiterate.. Khojas are not the only Ismailis of Indian descent. I am of the Satpanthi tradition, but not Khoja, as are many who have been discussing in this thread. The Satpanthi tradition, in and of itself, is a minority population within the greater Ism...

dear muslim brother, I will try to answer your question to my best knowledge and my beleif. 1) yes i believe there will be a day of judgment and every soul will be accountable for deeds. 2) yes i believe in reincarnation. 3) I believe the Imams and Hazrat mohammed are from the same light. as he is ...

GHADIR HADITH AND IT'S NATURE All the Shia and Sunni ulema acknowledge that, in the 10th of the Hijra year, the Prophet of Allah, returning from his last pilgrimage, gathered together all his companions at Ghadir-e-Khum on the 18th of Dhi'l-Hijja. Some of those who had gone ahead were called back b...