status of "PIR"
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kinnare786
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status of "PIR"
will someone explain what is the status of PIR (Hazarimam not included )? is there any comparison between mukhi and pir statuswise? if the pir( not Hazarimam) is present in jamatkhana what will be his status? can he be seated in mukhi:s place? please explain what the protocol would be
Re: status of "PIR"
Hazar Imam is also our Pir. When Hazar Imam gives Deedar and makes Farmans, he does it in the capacity of the Pir/Murshid. There have been extensive discussions on this issue in this forum. You may want to use the 'search' link above to access the threads. The following two are particularly noteworthy.kinnare786 wrote:will someone explain what is the status of PIR (Hazarimam not included )? is there any comparison between mukhi and pir statuswise? if the pir( not Hazarimam) is present in jamatkhana what will be his status? can he be seated in mukhi:s place? please explain what the protocol would be
Doctrines --> Pir and Prophet
Doctrines --> Pir or Mustawda Imam
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kinnare786
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status of pir
kmeherali yaali madad, of caurse Hazarimam is Pir and thats why i was trying to exclude Him from topic. my simple question was about protocol between the mukhi and the Pir. search section does not respond. was unable to reach the subject.
Re: status of pir
It would be the same protocal as the Deedar. Remember all Pirs are "Ahl-i-Bayt'. Imam Aga Ali Shah was a Pir before he became Imam at the death of his father Imam Hassanali Shah, He would give the Jamat Deedar as a Pir.kinnare786 wrote:kmeherali yaali madad, of caurse Hazarimam is Pir and thats why i was trying to exclude Him from topic. my simple question was about protocol between the mukhi and the Pir. search section does not respond. was unable to reach the subject.
Re: status of "PIR"
Prophet ,Imam, Imam e Mustawda ,Pir or Hujjats are treated in differents ranks at shariyati level ie in this world or physical world there is only one central point of NOOR but If you see with inner wisdom or marifat all have same Noor and In state of Oneness There is no difference they have same noor and bodly they are different and are in ranks.kinnare786 wrote:will someone explain what is the status of PIR (Hazarimam not included )? is there any comparison between mukhi and pir statuswise? if the pir( not Hazarimam) is present in jamatkhana what will be his status? can he be seated in mukhi:s place? please explain what the protocol would be