Near Death Experiences (NDEs)

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swamidada wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 7:17 pm Why is always meeting with Jesus/Yeshua? Is that tunnel made only for Christians? I haven't read about any Muslim travelling through this tunnel jumping into heavenly garden and seen THE PROPHET!!!
The Christians experience Christ, because that is their upbringing and background. Ismailis have experienced Hazar Imam as I have provided an anecdote before. It depends upon what beliefs they are brought up with. Hindus have experienced Lord Krishna etc. There are examples of Muslims as well which I will also post later.
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kmaherali wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:14 pm
swamidada wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 7:17 pm Why is always meeting with Jesus/Yeshua? Is that tunnel made only for Christians? I haven't read about any Muslim travelling through this tunnel jumping into heavenly garden and seen THE PROPHET!!!
The Christians experience Christ, because that is their upbringing and background. Ismailis have experienced Hazar Imam as I have provided an anecdote before. It depends upon what beliefs they are brought up with. Hindus have experienced Lord Krishna etc. There are examples of Muslims as well which I will also post later.
So NDE is related to religious back ground, and upbringing. Some day some one will claim 'I have seen Satan in NDE giving me blessings'.
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swamidada wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 9:22 pm So NDE is related to religious back ground, and upbringing. Some day some one will claim 'I have seen Satan in NDE giving me blessings'.
The NDEs are not only about the experience itself. It is about the trans formative nature of the experience. People have been changed by the experience. Some individuals who never could write about anything wrote books after the experience. They were cured miraculously from life threatening health situations. So it is not only about the experiences themselves but rather about the changes that came about through them. Hence it would be very unlikely that a NDE would occur to an individual which did not result in anything beneficial to the individual or to the society at large.

There is an interesting article about Muslim NDEs at: https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67 ... 0Kreps.pdf

Title: The Search for Muslim Near-Death Experiences
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Collection of NDE reports across cultures (ie Hindu, Muslim, Japanese, Chinese & German)

https://www.reddit.com/r/NDE/comments/1 ... e_tap=true
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kmaherali wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 10:12 pm Collection of NDE reports across cultures (ie Hindu, Muslim, Japanese, Chinese & German)

https://www.reddit.com/r/NDE/comments/1 ... e_tap=true

I am quoting conclusion by M.D Joel Ibrahim;

The Search for Muslim
Near-Death Experiences
Joel Ibrahim Kreps, M.D.
Montreal, Canada

Conclusions
Despite the recounting of several Muslim NDEs in this article, they
appear to be quite rare in fact.
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swamidada wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 6:57 pm
Conclusions
Despite the recounting of several Muslim NDEs in this article, they
appear to be quite rare in fact.
Thanks for reading the article. They are rare in Muslim societies because the majority are constantly being reminded of the hereafter in their practices and traditions. Most Muslims are observant of their traditions and hence constantly being reminded about the hereafter and hence NDEs are not required. In the case of the Western societies anchored in Christianity, the majority do not practice their traditions and hence such NDEs are more frequent as reminders of the greatness of the hereafter. In fact in the majority of the NDEs the experiencers did not practice their traditions before the experience and hence NDEs served as reminders.
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On Mairaj night the prophet was in bed and his soul ascended to heaven, had conversation with many prophets, talked to God and back. Is this an example of NDE?
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swamidada wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 7:56 pm On Mairaj night the prophet was in bed and his soul ascended to heaven, had conversation with many prophets, talked to God and back. Is this an example of NDE?
Many individuals who have had near death experiences have revisited the NDE experience in their meditation. Sayyed Imamshah in his Ginan: Janat Puri describes similar experiences attained through Ibadat. Hence experiences attained through Ibadat can be similar or equal to NDEs.

Hence the experience attained by Prophet Muhammad through Ibadat can be considered an NDE or out of the body experience.
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11 Spiritual Signs Death Is Near From Harbingers to Dreams
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When death is coming, is there any way to know? Perhaps, in some cases, you can tune in and notice spiritual signs that death is nearing. These may be much easier to spot in someone who is very ill or in hospice — some families, friends, and healthcare workers report common spiritual signs that someone could die soon. Most of these reports describe specific experiences that people who are dying have that can be taken as spiritual signs of an impending death.

7 Spiritual Signs That Death Is Near for Someone Who Is Terminally Ill
When a person is in hospice, palliative care, or a slow decline from a terminal illness, there are some common things that care workers and family members notice as they get closer to death.

Visits From Deceased Family Members
Deathbed visions are common in hospices, where care workers and family report the person who is dying "sees" loved ones who have come to escort them to the other side. According to Psychology Today, deathbed visions (DBVs) can occur anywhere from weeks before death to right up to the time of death, and about 57% of them involve experiencing relatives who have died. When these visions happen, it typically calms the person who is dying and brings them peace.

Visits From Angels or Religious Figures
Another type of deathbed vision comes in the form of encountering angels or religious figures. For example, they may report angels gathering around them or see Jesus (in case of Ismailis Hazar Imam) in the room with them. As with deceased family members, these deathbed visions bring peace and comfort to someone who is dying.

Hearing Angelic Music and Singing
There are many reports of those dying who claim to hear music playing that no one else can hear Some also claim to see and hear angelic choruses singing (according to Muslims angel Israfael).

Encountering a Bright Light

Some people who are dying may see or sense a bright light and feel a pull towards it. This light is also common in near-death experiences, where the person who has the experience moves down a tunnel toward a bright and loving light (in Ismaili Tariqa it is Noor).

Withdrawing From the World
Healthcare and hospice caregivers report noticing the dying person often withdraws into themselves as though entering a different world. Some people report seeing into another world or dimension.

Drop in Room Temperature
An inexplicable coldness in the room temperature is sometimes reported. Healthcare professionals often feel a shift in the room temperature when a person is dying. Mediums, psychics, and ghost hunters frequently report this phenomenon whenever a spirit is present.

Out-of-Body Experiences
Some deathbed experiences include what's known as out-of-body experiences (OBEs), where the person who is dying finds themselves floating above their body. A similar experience is often reported in a near-death experience (NDE) when someone has died and been resuscitated.

They Feel a Physical & Spiritual Transition
There are also reports from people who are dying about feeling the separation of their soul from their physical body. In such instances, the person feels their body functions slowing down and themselves in spirit form slipping free of their physical body. This is a process that can last over a short or extended period.

Signs From the Universe That Someone May Die Soon
Do people know when they are going to die, even if they're not ill? There are plenty of anecdotal reports of people knowing they will die soon.

End-of-Life Dreams and Visions
There are lots of stories of people who dreamed of their death and then died soon after the dream. But has anyone studied this? There have been some limited scientific studies, including a 2016 scientific study in India with patients in palliative care. In this study, about 63% of terminally ill patients reported having either end-of-life dreams or visions. Of course, this study was done on patients who knew their time was limited, so it's hard to know how well it translates to people who are not terminally ill.

But anecdotal reports in people who aren't terminally ill seem to suggest that some people may, indeed, have some kind of an end-of-life dream or vision in the period before they die. These dreams are usually extremely vivid and can occur when one is sleeping or awake.

That's not to say if you dream of your death, that you're going to die next week. Symbolically, dreams of death can represent transitions in life... the death of one part of yourself that gives birth to something new.

Many cultures believe in harbingers of death — things that appear to a person before they die, such as hearing the wailing of a Banshee (Celtic) or encountering a crow (Hindu) or other birds (in subcontinent crying of crows is considered some one is going to die in family).

Premonitions
Another phenomenon that may indicate death is on the way is a premonition. There have been tales of people having premonitions of their own deaths for centuries. Most of these reports are anecdotal, with little scientific study to back them up, but it has happened enough over the years to suggest that this is a true spiritual phenomenon that some people experience.

Knowing
This is pretty ephemeral and hard to explain. But some people experience a knowing where they know their time on Earth is limited. Certainly, anxiety can play a role in such experiences, and not everyone who is certain they are going to die soon actually does. But there are enough anecdotal stories about people who have seemingly known they were going to die and then died to lend it some credence.

Are there spiritual signs you'll die young? Again, there's no specific evidence that there are, but some people report that young people who died seemed to have some insight into what was coming. Whether it was through dreams, visions, or knowing, this may be the case, or it could be confirmation bias among the people who are still alive.

Exploring Common Spiritual Signs of Death
There are several common spiritual signs that death is near reported by the dying and the living. You can give comfort to someone dying by letting them feel safe in sharing their spirituality and any spiritual signs they have about their death.

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Psychedelic Drugs May Give a Glimpse Into Near-Death Experiences

A survey revealed similarities between these two altered states of consciousness.

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For a study, researchers recruited 31 people, mostly men from the United States and Britain, who reported having near-death and psychedelic drug experiences.Credit...Charlie Riedel/Associated Press

One person felt a sensation of “slowly floating into the air” as images flashed around. Another recalled “the most profound sense of love and peace,” unlike anything experienced before. Consciousness became a “foreign entity” to another whose “whole sense of reality disappeared.”

These were some of the firsthand accounts shared in a small survey of people who belonged to an unusual cohort: They had all undergone a near-death experience and tried psychedelic drugs.

The survey participants described their near-death and psychedelic experiences as being distinct, yet they also reported significant overlap. In a paper published on Thursday, researchers used these accounts to provide a comparison of the two phenomena.

“For the first time, we have a quantitative study with personal testimony from people who have had both of these experiences,” said Charlotte Martial, a neuroscientist at the University of Liège in Belgium and an author of the findings, which were published in the journal Neuroscience of Consciousness. “Now we can say for sure that psychedelics can be a kind of window through which people can enter a rich, subjective state resembling a near-death experience.”

Near-death experiences are surprisingly common — an estimated 5 to 10 percent of the general population has reported having one. For decades, scientists largely dismissed the fantastical stories of people who returned from the brink of death. But some researchers have started to take these accounts seriously.

“In recent times, the science of consciousness has become interested in nonordinary states,” said Christopher Timmermann, a research fellow at the Center for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London and an author of the article. “To get a comprehensive account of what it means to be a human being requires incorporating these experiences.”

It is difficult to study near-death experiences in a lab, since they typically involve heart attacks or other life-threatening conditions.

One way of getting around this issue is to find proxy circumstances that induce a similar state but do not put the safety of participants at risk. A handful of studies have compared near-death experiences to deep meditation, fainting and mind-altering drugs, but they have done so by analyzing reports of those experiences.

For the new study, Dr. Martial, Dr. Timmermann and Robin Carhart-Harris, a psychopharmacologist at the University of California, San Francisco, recruited 31 people who reported having had near-death and psychedelic drug experiences.

The participants were mostly men from the United States and Britain whose near-death experiences stemmed mainly from traumatic events, like car crashes.

Some had tried mind-altering drugs just a few times; others had more than 100 times. Most had used LSD or psilocybin mushrooms.

Most people said they turned to psychedelic drugs sometime after their brushes with death. “It’s possible that the near-death experience motivated people to take drugs, but we didn’t ask that, so we don’t know,” Dr. Martial said.

The researchers asked participants to fill out questionnaires to assess things like ego dissolution, psychological insight and memory potency. They also answered open-ended questions.

The results revealed significant overlap between the experiences. Many participants reported feeling as if they had left the earthly world, an altered time perception and a sense of peacefulness and ineffability.

Both experiences also tended to change participants’ outlooks on life. Near-death experiences were more likely to leave people feeling less afraid of dying, while psychedelics enhanced connections to other people, nature and the cosmos.

“It is significant and intriguing that the researchers’ findings replicate many of the findings from prior comparative studies, including enduring effects regarding the personal, psychological and spiritual meaningfulness of these experiences,” said Anthony Bossis, a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at New York University who was not involved in the study.

There were also notable differences. Participants reported stronger visual hallucinations with psychedelics and a greater sense of having left their body in near-death situations.

Dinesh Pal, an associate professor at the University of Michigan, said the findings suggested that psychedelics “can be a powerful tool to study near-death experiences, particularly because they don’t involve someone teetering on the brink of death.” He was not involved in the research.

Sandeep Nayak, an assistant professor at Johns Hopkins University who was not involved in the research, added that the study was not clear on contrast. It could be that these states “are all deeply similar in a fundamental way,” he said. But it could be “that our measures are too crude to differentiate them.”

Dr. Timmermann acknowledged that the new study was only “an entry point.” Future studies could explore the possible brain mechanisms that underlie all mystical experiences, he said, and also investigate the way these phenomena can vary between people and cultures.

“Some features seem transcultural,” Dr. Timmermann said. “But others might be influenced by our cultural narratives.”

The researchers are planning additional studies to test whether certain psychedelic drugs might have an even stronger overlap with near-death experiences, including 5-Meo-DMT, a powerful psychedelic component from the venom of a desert toad.

“There’s a lot of conjecture that various altered states may be the same kind of thing — that we’re just seeing different parts of the elephant,” Dr. Timmermann said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/heal ... study.html
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