kmaherali wrote:salimkhoja786 wrote:
Rumi in his mathnavi has mentioned two positive and favorable anecdotes about Amir Mu'awiya. Do ismailis accept these positive stories?.
MSMS made a final reconciliation between Sunni and Shias:
"That a spiritual succession to the Imamat makes the Imam the 'Ulu'1-amr Menkom always according to the Koran and though he has his moral claim to the Khalifat as well, always he can, like Hazrat Aly himself owing to the conditions of the world accept and support such worldly authorities as the Imam believes help the cause of Islam. Thus a final reconciliation without upsetting either Sunni or Shiah doctrine has been proclaimed always by me as the faith of all the Ismailis."
Based on the above we accept the 4 rightly guided caliphs. We know that Umayyads contributed significantly to the spread of Islam in Spain. There are some art works from Spain in our AKM. So we accept those positive stories about other caliphs who helped the cause of Islam
salimkhoja786 wrote:
Being an Ismaili I do not believe Imam should or could consume alcohol neither majority of followers of Imam. You have opened the Pandora's box.
YouU have the wrong understanding of Imamat and you are not willing to accept the truth based on references provided. Below is the quote from Tusi's 'Paradise of Submission" which is an IIS publication.
$376] Anyone who reasons to himself that the Imam - may salutations
ensue upon mention of him - should act according to the prescriptions
of the founder of the religious law in order to be Imam, and in order
to be impeccable (ma'sum), that he should adhere to the canons of
ascetic piety and holy chastity which ordinary people consider to be
piety and chastity, [such a person] can be numbered among those who
are described, when discussions about human intelligence are broached,
as [possessing] 'such denial, such devilry, which resembles reason,
but is not reason. Such a person does not have even an iota of
understanding regarding the condition of the Imamate.
[$377] When such people witness the behaviour and actions of the Imam -
may salutations ensue upon mention of him - they become delirious,
thinking these to be terrible transgressions, uttering things 'whereby
the heavens are almost torn asunder'(19: 90). For the Imam - may
salutations ensue upon mention of him - exercise his judgement in a
manner that is beyond the comprehension of mankind. Therefore, only
that person of whom it can be said that, 'The believer has been
created from [the light of]God, and when God orders him something, he
will recognise it, will be able to disclose this mystery by the light
of his primordial conscience (nur-i-fitrat). Such a person knows,
beyond any shadow of doubt or suspicion, that it is the truth which
follows the Imam, not the Imam who has to follow the truth. This is
because the Imam is the lord of truth(Khudavind-i haqq). and his will
and desire have no need to be justified or motivated by any secondary
cause, because from his perspective, the cause, the caused and the
causation are all the same.
