nuseri wrote:Ya Ali Madad.
is the word 'Mazhar' mentioned in the constitution? .
where is it's placement.
of somebody trying to club some resolution n constitution together
to fool people around.
I do not have fine print of the CNSTN.I may be in correct.
It is very very interesting word defining as TARIQAT . physical eyes sight level.
Inspiration has move upward or deeper if called as conviction.
Mazhar is nothing bur a reflection of mirror Image of the original of the REAL.
for example purpose we can use reflective index material as still water or mirror.
now what is the relation
if we see sun/moon in the mirror.
what we see is image of real sun/moon existing form figure shape etc.
any person blessed with inspiration or Ilm NEED TO question
if Image is the reflection of the real situated at a place or an angle
where the image is seen.? than where is real object/person??
A small effort is needed of that person either to turn it eyes ( sorry blind eyed). to angle where he feels n confident to see the real.
It is no rocket science but rational sense level of high school student.
In the case of sun or moon one has look upward,In case of a physical person one has look beside itself right or left to confirm the image seen
of the real with the real HIMSELF.
Imaan is diluting that non existing reflective index( still water/mirror).
and come to know n see the real by just moving the eyes.
IF THERE IS NO REAL THAN THERE IS NO IMAGE.
IS REAL IS FORMLESS N UNSEEN THEN IMAGE SHOULD BE BLANK
(POSSIBLE TO A BLIND TO SAY THAT).
If the word 'Mazhar' is taken with our haqiqati concept n sufi tariqa
the next level is simple.
Only enemies and rotten stinking Ismailis will try to distort the meaning with fancy words n idioms suiting their cursed inspiration level.
To nuseri: First, some correction and clarification.
Mazhar is not the same as
Reflection.
Mazhar = Locus of Manifestation (Place of Manifestation)
Reflection = reflecting something, as we know. We can say, that people reflect their values and believes in their speeches and deeds.
Second, The concepts about The God and The Imam is not something that has been introduced in the conference of 1975 at Paris.
This has been always the belief of Ismailies. FYI, read the work of Ismailie thinkers and philosophers, which is available to the Jama'at from the era of Fatimid. I can name a few -- I know you won't read it, because you don't believe in them -- such as Sajistani, Tusi, Kirmani, Nasir-e-Khusraw, Attar (Attar was not an ismailie, but beautifully explains these concept in his "Mantiq-ul-Tyre" [The conference of Birds]).
God must be understood based on the Surah Ikhlas of the Qur'an! Of all the Surah's of the Qur'an, the very most important Surah, is the Surah Ikhlas, and that's how MHI approved the concept of God has to be tought and understood!
If you want to discuss about the Mazhar and Reflection, then please be mindful and listen to the other side of the story. I did try and explain it once, here I will try again.
Mazhar is the place of Manifestation. The Imam is Mazhar of Allah, of the place where Allah Manifest, Where the divine attibutres are
reflected. All these divine attributes do not belong to
The Essence of Allah. They rather belong to
The Personal Aspect of Allah, which is the
Nur of Imamat
One think I would like to reiterate is that by no means, the status of the Imam is degraded if we say the Imam is Mazhar of God. NO.
And please nuseri, can you reply to the question I posed in my previous post?