This is the hindu beleif of Das avatar-
Matsya, the fish.
Kurma, the turtle.
Varaha, the boar.
Narasimha, the Man-Lion (Nara = man, simha = lion).
Vamana, the Dwarf Brahmin (priest).
Parashurama, Rama with the axe, who appeared in the Treta Yuga.
Rama, Sri Ramachandra, the prince and king of Ayodhya.
Krishna (meaning 'dark coloured' or 'all attractive' or the Existence of Bliss, [30]), appeared in the Dwapara Yuga along with his brother Balarama. Balarama is included as the eighth Dasavatara which list Krishna as the source of all avatars, svayam bhagavan (this viewpoint is specific to Bhagavata, Gaudiya, Vallabhacarya and Nimbarka sampradayas) .[31]
Buddha, the thinker. ( Gautama Buddha in Hinduism)
Kalki ("Eternity", or "time", or "The Destroyer of foulness"), who is expected to appear at the end of Kali Yuga, the time period in which we currently exist.
Can anyone tell me the differnce in our Ismaili version of Das avatar? and why is our 9 th avatar is different than theirs?
Difference in 9 th avatar
Gautama Buddh is not Buddh Awatar, Gautama Buddh is for the Budhists, not for the Hindus.
Hindus are stuck at Krishna, they do not know Buddh and Naklanki both have already come.
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well different people have different opinion, some say the last avatar[kalki] was prophet muhamamd[saw], if you remember he was the one who fought against jaahils and other great wars, fought with non islamic corrupts and he was the one who destroyed 360 idols from mecca which include the sculptures of h.ibrahim[as]
inshort he proclaimed islam over all religion and he was the one who made peace treaty among christians
he was the one who laid down the sharia for the ummah followed by his successor
inshort he proclaimed islam over all religion and he was the one who made peace treaty among christians
he was the one who laid down the sharia for the ummah followed by his successor
9th Avatar as Buddha
Most Hindu's would agree that the Buddha of the 9th incarnation of Vishnu is the same as the Historical Buddha. Given the dating is way off, but then again South Asian mythologies never did have a Western sense of time. Also the description of the Buddh and the historical buddha don't seem to match. And the Buddh performing a cow sacrifice would be outside of what the historical Buddha would do. There is something significant in the disparity even if its not really obvious to us today.
When the practices taught by the Vedas and the institutes of law,
Shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh,
A portion of that Divine Being who exists of his own spiritual nature,
In the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end,
And who comprehends all things shall descend upon the earth.
He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin,
Of Sambhala village, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties.
By his irresistible might, He will destroy all the barbarians and thieves,
And all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; And the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age, shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal.
The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time,
Shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita Age, the Age of Purity.
Vishnu Purana 4.24
"In Hinduism, an avatar is the incarnation, or manifestation, of a god, especially of Vishnu. The doctrine of avatars first appeared in the Bhagavad Gita; portrayals of the various avatars are found in the Puranas and other epics of India. Krishna is one of the most popular incarnations of Vishnu. Hindu legend says that Vishnu has already assumed nine avatars, with a tenth, Kalki, due to appear to usher in a golden age."
"The Kalki-avatara is described in two varieties: one two-armed, the other four-armed. In the dasavatara slabs we find usually the two-armed variety described in the Vishudharmottara Purana as "a powerful man in angry mood, riding on horseback with a sword in his raised hand."
"Kalki is the next Avatar of Vishnu. He is yet to appear and when he does He will appear, riding his white horse and wielding a shiny sword, at the end of the Kaliyuga, the dark age through which we are passing. This is considered to be the age of suffering, darkness and doom. His task will be to end the evil and restore the Dharma. Thus will begin a new cycle, again will start the Satyayuga or the age of truth and righteousness."
Thereafter, at the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respected gentlemen of the three higher castes, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the lowborn sudra class or those less than them, and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the Supreme Chastiser.
The symptoms of the worst conditions of the material world, at the last stage of this life, called Kali-yuga, are stated herein. The sum and substance of such conditions is godlessness. Even the so-called saints and higher castes of the social orders, generally known as the dvija-janas or the twice-born, will become atheists. As such, all of them will practically forget even the holy name of the Lord, and what to speak of His activities. The higher castes of society, namely the intelligent class of men guiding the law and order of the society, and the productive class of men guiding the economic development of the society, must all be properly versed in knowledge of the Supreme Lord, knowing factually His name, quality, pastimes, entourage, paraphernalia and personalities. The saints and the higher castes or orders of the society are judged by their proportion of knowledge in the science of God, or tattva-jnana, and not by any kind of birthright or bodily designations. Such designations, without any knowledge of the science of God and practical knowledge of devotional service, are considered to be decorations of the dead bodies. And when there is too much inflation of these decorated dead bodies in society, there develop so many anomalies in the progressive, peaceful life of human being. Because of the lack of training or culture in the upper section of the social orders, they are no more to be designated as the dvija-janas, or twice-born. The significance of being twice-born has been explained in many places in these great literatures, and again one is reminded herewith that birth, executed by the sex life of the father and mother, is called animal birth. But such animal birth and progress of life on the animal principles of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating (without any scientific culture of spiritual life) is called the sudra life, or, to be more explicit, the uncultured life of the lower class of men. It is stated herein that the government power of society in the Kali-yuga will be passed over to the uncultured, godless laborer classes of men, and thus the nrdevas (or the ministers of the government) will be the vrsalas, or the uncultured lower-class of society. The symptoms of such uncultured social animals are already in vogue, and it is the duty of the leaders of men to take note of it and try to reform the social order by introducing the principles of twice-born men trained in the science of God consciousness. This can be done by expanding the culture of Srimad-Bhagavatam all over the world. In the degraded condition of human society, the Lord incarnates as the Kalki avatara and kills all the demonic without mercy."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 2, Ch. 7 Text 38
(A.C. Bhaktivedanta, Srimad Bhagavatam, 1987, p. 422.)
"(Sanskrit) A place-name of highly mystical significance. Many learned occidental Orientalists have endeavored to identify this mystical and unknown locality with some well-known modern district or town, but unsuccessfully. The name is mentioned in the Puranas and elsewhere, and it is stated that out of Sambhala will appear in due course of time the Kalki-Avatara of the future. The Kalki-Avatara is one of the manifestations or avataras of Vishnu. Among the Buddhists it is also stated that out of Sambhala will come in due course of time the Maitreya-Buddha or next buddha."
"In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called as Kalki there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last Judgment."
Shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh,
A portion of that Divine Being who exists of his own spiritual nature,
In the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end,
And who comprehends all things shall descend upon the earth.
He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin,
Of Sambhala village, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties.
By his irresistible might, He will destroy all the barbarians and thieves,
And all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; And the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age, shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal.
The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time,
Shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita Age, the Age of Purity.
Vishnu Purana 4.24
"In Hinduism, an avatar is the incarnation, or manifestation, of a god, especially of Vishnu. The doctrine of avatars first appeared in the Bhagavad Gita; portrayals of the various avatars are found in the Puranas and other epics of India. Krishna is one of the most popular incarnations of Vishnu. Hindu legend says that Vishnu has already assumed nine avatars, with a tenth, Kalki, due to appear to usher in a golden age."
"The Kalki-avatara is described in two varieties: one two-armed, the other four-armed. In the dasavatara slabs we find usually the two-armed variety described in the Vishudharmottara Purana as "a powerful man in angry mood, riding on horseback with a sword in his raised hand."
"Kalki is the next Avatar of Vishnu. He is yet to appear and when he does He will appear, riding his white horse and wielding a shiny sword, at the end of the Kaliyuga, the dark age through which we are passing. This is considered to be the age of suffering, darkness and doom. His task will be to end the evil and restore the Dharma. Thus will begin a new cycle, again will start the Satyayuga or the age of truth and righteousness."
Thereafter, at the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respected gentlemen of the three higher castes, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the lowborn sudra class or those less than them, and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the Supreme Chastiser.
The symptoms of the worst conditions of the material world, at the last stage of this life, called Kali-yuga, are stated herein. The sum and substance of such conditions is godlessness. Even the so-called saints and higher castes of the social orders, generally known as the dvija-janas or the twice-born, will become atheists. As such, all of them will practically forget even the holy name of the Lord, and what to speak of His activities. The higher castes of society, namely the intelligent class of men guiding the law and order of the society, and the productive class of men guiding the economic development of the society, must all be properly versed in knowledge of the Supreme Lord, knowing factually His name, quality, pastimes, entourage, paraphernalia and personalities. The saints and the higher castes or orders of the society are judged by their proportion of knowledge in the science of God, or tattva-jnana, and not by any kind of birthright or bodily designations. Such designations, without any knowledge of the science of God and practical knowledge of devotional service, are considered to be decorations of the dead bodies. And when there is too much inflation of these decorated dead bodies in society, there develop so many anomalies in the progressive, peaceful life of human being. Because of the lack of training or culture in the upper section of the social orders, they are no more to be designated as the dvija-janas, or twice-born. The significance of being twice-born has been explained in many places in these great literatures, and again one is reminded herewith that birth, executed by the sex life of the father and mother, is called animal birth. But such animal birth and progress of life on the animal principles of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating (without any scientific culture of spiritual life) is called the sudra life, or, to be more explicit, the uncultured life of the lower class of men. It is stated herein that the government power of society in the Kali-yuga will be passed over to the uncultured, godless laborer classes of men, and thus the nrdevas (or the ministers of the government) will be the vrsalas, or the uncultured lower-class of society. The symptoms of such uncultured social animals are already in vogue, and it is the duty of the leaders of men to take note of it and try to reform the social order by introducing the principles of twice-born men trained in the science of God consciousness. This can be done by expanding the culture of Srimad-Bhagavatam all over the world. In the degraded condition of human society, the Lord incarnates as the Kalki avatara and kills all the demonic without mercy."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 2, Ch. 7 Text 38
(A.C. Bhaktivedanta, Srimad Bhagavatam, 1987, p. 422.)
"(Sanskrit) A place-name of highly mystical significance. Many learned occidental Orientalists have endeavored to identify this mystical and unknown locality with some well-known modern district or town, but unsuccessfully. The name is mentioned in the Puranas and elsewhere, and it is stated that out of Sambhala will appear in due course of time the Kalki-Avatara of the future. The Kalki-Avatara is one of the manifestations or avataras of Vishnu. Among the Buddhists it is also stated that out of Sambhala will come in due course of time the Maitreya-Buddha or next buddha."
"In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called as Kalki there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last Judgment."
When the practices taught by the Vedas and the institutes of law,
Shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh,
A portion of that Divine Being who exists of his own spiritual nature,
In the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end,
And who comprehends all things shall descend upon the earth.
He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin,
Of Sambhala village, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties.
By his irresistible might, He will destroy all the barbarians and thieves,
And all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; And the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age, shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal.
The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time,
Shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita Age, the Age of Purity.
Vishnu Purana 4.24
"In Hinduism, an avatar is the incarnation, or manifestation, of a god, especially of Vishnu. The doctrine of avatars first appeared in the Bhagavad Gita; portrayals of the various avatars are found in the Puranas and other epics of India. Krishna is one of the most popular incarnations of Vishnu. Hindu legend says that Vishnu has already assumed nine avatars, with a tenth, Kalki, due to appear to usher in a golden age."
"The Kalki-avatara is described in two varieties: one two-armed, the other four-armed. In the dasavatara slabs we find usually the two-armed variety described in the Vishudharmottara Purana as "a powerful man in angry mood, riding on horseback with a sword in his raised hand."
"Kalki is the next Avatar of Vishnu. He is yet to appear and when he does He will appear, riding his white horse and wielding a shiny sword, at the end of the Kaliyuga, the dark age through which we are passing. This is considered to be the age of suffering, darkness and doom. His task will be to end the evil and restore the Dharma. Thus will begin a new cycle, again will start the Satyayuga or the age of truth and righteousness."
Thereafter, at the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respected gentlemen of the three higher castes, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the lowborn sudra class or those less than them, and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the Supreme Chastiser.
The symptoms of the worst conditions of the material world, at the last stage of this life, called Kali-yuga, are stated herein. The sum and substance of such conditions is godlessness. Even the so-called saints and higher castes of the social orders, generally known as the dvija-janas or the twice-born, will become atheists. As such, all of them will practically forget even the holy name of the Lord, and what to speak of His activities. The higher castes of society, namely the intelligent class of men guiding the law and order of the society, and the productive class of men guiding the economic development of the society, must all be properly versed in knowledge of the Supreme Lord, knowing factually His name, quality, pastimes, entourage, paraphernalia and personalities. The saints and the higher castes or orders of the society are judged by their proportion of knowledge in the science of God, or tattva-jnana, and not by any kind of birthright or bodily designations. Such designations, without any knowledge of the science of God and practical knowledge of devotional service, are considered to be decorations of the dead bodies. And when there is too much inflation of these decorated dead bodies in society, there develop so many anomalies in the progressive, peaceful life of human being. Because of the lack of training or culture in the upper section of the social orders, they are no more to be designated as the dvija-janas, or twice-born. The significance of being twice-born has been explained in many places in these great literatures, and again one is reminded herewith that birth, executed by the sex life of the father and mother, is called animal birth. But such animal birth and progress of life on the animal principles of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating (without any scientific culture of spiritual life) is called the sudra life, or, to be more explicit, the uncultured life of the lower class of men. It is stated herein that the government power of society in the Kali-yuga will be passed over to the uncultured, godless laborer classes of men, and thus the nrdevas (or the ministers of the government) will be the vrsalas, or the uncultured lower-class of society. The symptoms of such uncultured social animals are already in vogue, and it is the duty of the leaders of men to take note of it and try to reform the social order by introducing the principles of twice-born men trained in the science of God consciousness. This can be done by expanding the culture of Srimad-Bhagavatam all over the world. In the degraded condition of human society, the Lord incarnates as the Kalki avatara and kills all the demonic without mercy."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 2, Ch. 7 Text 38
(A.C. Bhaktivedanta, Srimad Bhagavatam, 1987, p. 422.)
"(Sanskrit) A place-name of highly mystical significance. Many learned occidental Orientalists have endeavored to identify this mystical and unknown locality with some well-known modern district or town, but unsuccessfully. The name is mentioned in the Puranas and elsewhere, and it is stated that out of Sambhala will appear in due course of time the Kalki-Avatara of the future. The Kalki-Avatara is one of the manifestations or avataras of Vishnu. Among the Buddhists it is also stated that out of Sambhala will come in due course of time the Maitreya-Buddha or next buddha."
"In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called as Kalki there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last Judgment."
Shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh,
A portion of that Divine Being who exists of his own spiritual nature,
In the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end,
And who comprehends all things shall descend upon the earth.
He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin,
Of Sambhala village, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties.
By his irresistible might, He will destroy all the barbarians and thieves,
And all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; And the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age, shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal.
The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time,
Shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita Age, the Age of Purity.
Vishnu Purana 4.24
"In Hinduism, an avatar is the incarnation, or manifestation, of a god, especially of Vishnu. The doctrine of avatars first appeared in the Bhagavad Gita; portrayals of the various avatars are found in the Puranas and other epics of India. Krishna is one of the most popular incarnations of Vishnu. Hindu legend says that Vishnu has already assumed nine avatars, with a tenth, Kalki, due to appear to usher in a golden age."
"The Kalki-avatara is described in two varieties: one two-armed, the other four-armed. In the dasavatara slabs we find usually the two-armed variety described in the Vishudharmottara Purana as "a powerful man in angry mood, riding on horseback with a sword in his raised hand."
"Kalki is the next Avatar of Vishnu. He is yet to appear and when he does He will appear, riding his white horse and wielding a shiny sword, at the end of the Kaliyuga, the dark age through which we are passing. This is considered to be the age of suffering, darkness and doom. His task will be to end the evil and restore the Dharma. Thus will begin a new cycle, again will start the Satyayuga or the age of truth and righteousness."
Thereafter, at the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respected gentlemen of the three higher castes, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the lowborn sudra class or those less than them, and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the Supreme Chastiser.
The symptoms of the worst conditions of the material world, at the last stage of this life, called Kali-yuga, are stated herein. The sum and substance of such conditions is godlessness. Even the so-called saints and higher castes of the social orders, generally known as the dvija-janas or the twice-born, will become atheists. As such, all of them will practically forget even the holy name of the Lord, and what to speak of His activities. The higher castes of society, namely the intelligent class of men guiding the law and order of the society, and the productive class of men guiding the economic development of the society, must all be properly versed in knowledge of the Supreme Lord, knowing factually His name, quality, pastimes, entourage, paraphernalia and personalities. The saints and the higher castes or orders of the society are judged by their proportion of knowledge in the science of God, or tattva-jnana, and not by any kind of birthright or bodily designations. Such designations, without any knowledge of the science of God and practical knowledge of devotional service, are considered to be decorations of the dead bodies. And when there is too much inflation of these decorated dead bodies in society, there develop so many anomalies in the progressive, peaceful life of human being. Because of the lack of training or culture in the upper section of the social orders, they are no more to be designated as the dvija-janas, or twice-born. The significance of being twice-born has been explained in many places in these great literatures, and again one is reminded herewith that birth, executed by the sex life of the father and mother, is called animal birth. But such animal birth and progress of life on the animal principles of eating, sleeping, fearing and mating (without any scientific culture of spiritual life) is called the sudra life, or, to be more explicit, the uncultured life of the lower class of men. It is stated herein that the government power of society in the Kali-yuga will be passed over to the uncultured, godless laborer classes of men, and thus the nrdevas (or the ministers of the government) will be the vrsalas, or the uncultured lower-class of society. The symptoms of such uncultured social animals are already in vogue, and it is the duty of the leaders of men to take note of it and try to reform the social order by introducing the principles of twice-born men trained in the science of God consciousness. This can be done by expanding the culture of Srimad-Bhagavatam all over the world. In the degraded condition of human society, the Lord incarnates as the Kalki avatara and kills all the demonic without mercy."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 2, Ch. 7 Text 38
(A.C. Bhaktivedanta, Srimad Bhagavatam, 1987, p. 422.)
"(Sanskrit) A place-name of highly mystical significance. Many learned occidental Orientalists have endeavored to identify this mystical and unknown locality with some well-known modern district or town, but unsuccessfully. The name is mentioned in the Puranas and elsewhere, and it is stated that out of Sambhala will appear in due course of time the Kalki-Avatara of the future. The Kalki-Avatara is one of the manifestations or avataras of Vishnu. Among the Buddhists it is also stated that out of Sambhala will come in due course of time the Maitreya-Buddha or next buddha."
"In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called as Kalki there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last Judgment."
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