Char jug no chanto

Aly_shallwani · Post by **Aly_shallwani** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:58 am

I know the meaning of it...but i wonder why is it not in our current practices??

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:29 am

Aly_shallwani wrote:I know the meaning of it...but i wonder why is it not in our current practices??

It is.

Shams

TheMaw · Post by **TheMaw** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:30 am

ShamsB wrote:
Aly_shallwani wrote:I know the meaning of it...but i wonder why is it not in our current practices??
I don't know Khojki, what is "...no chanto"? (I can understand 4 Jug.)

Also, does anyone know where a good intro to Khojki is? I know some Farsi, I am studying Arabic, but Khojki is outside of my realm of knowledge (although I know more than most about Indian languages, so it's not totally foreign).

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:48 am

TheMaw wrote:
ShamsB wrote:
Aly_shallwani wrote:I know the meaning of it...but i wonder why is it not in our current practices??
I don't know Khojki, what is "...no chanto"? (I can understand 4 Jug.)

Also, does anyone know where a good intro to Khojki is? I know some Farsi, I am studying Arabic, but Khojki is outside of my realm of knowledge (although I know more than most about Indian languages, so it's not totally foreign).
Chanto of Chaar Jug.

You know what Chanta is I presume? Chaar Jug - 4 ages.

Shams

TheMaw · Post by **TheMaw** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:09 pm

ShamsB wrote:Chanto of Chaar Jug. You know what Chanta is I presume? Chaar Jug - 4 ages.

Thanks, yes I do. I should have made the connexion, lol, right?

So no is perhaps a possessive? Okay, that helps with a lot of things.

Aly_shallwani · Post by **Aly_shallwani** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:02 pm

I cant see it any where???there is a normal chanta only....How cud we get it?do we have to go to Mukhi saheb and ask for it? and cud any one describe its entire background,because i cudnt find much about it...on ismaili.net..just found what is it for..

Post by **Admin** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:26 am

It is part of the 15 Chantas given only on Layl ul Kadr.

see http://www.ismaili.net/ceremonies/chantas.html

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:17 am

TheMaw wrote:
ShamsB wrote:Chanto of Chaar Jug. You know what Chanta is I presume? Chaar Jug - 4 ages.
Thanks, yes I do. I should have made the connexion, lol, right?

So no is perhaps a possessive? Okay, that helps with a lot of things.

No- belonging to/of....
eg. Abdulrasul nochokro - Son ofAbdulrasul.

hope this helps.

Shams

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:29 am

ShamsB wrote:Chanto of Chaar Jug.

You know what Chanta is I presume? Chaar Jug - 4 ages.

Shams

Chaar Jug can be symbolic of 'all time'.

Aly_shallwani · Post by **Aly_shallwani** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:44 am

Yam admin!,
Does all these 15 chantas are given at a time?on the day of laylatulqadr?or a single chanta contains the significance of all the 15 chantas?actually i have never heard about these special chantas before!else then madan no chanto which is given when a person dies.

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:51 am

Aly_shallwani wrote:Yam admin!,
Does all these 15 chantas are given at a time?on the day of laylatulqadr?or a single chanta contains the significance of all the 15 chantas?actually i have never heard about these special chantas before!else then madan no chanto which is given when a person dies.

You make the niyat before you kneel for your chanto...

Shams

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:20 am

As per the above discussion I figure it out that all these 15 chhantas can only taken on 'LAITUL QADRA' night, We should not ask MUKHI?KAMADIA saheb for all these chhanta but we need to make niyat only before the Chhanta. Please correct me if I miss anything as per above discussion.
Why we can only take these chhanta on Laitul Qadra night? why not other nights, there are too many holy days in our religion? is there any significence just for Laital Qadra night for these chhanta?

ShamsB · Post by **ShamsB** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:31 am

agakhani wrote:As per the above discussion I figure it out that all these 15 chhantas can only taken on 'LAITUL QADRA' night, We should not ask MUKHI?KAMADIA saheb for all these chhanta but we need to make niyat only before the Chhanta. Please correct me if I miss anything as per above discussion.
Why we can only take these chhanta on Laitul Qadra night? why not other nights, there are too many holy days in our religion? is there any significence just for Laital Qadra night for these chhanta?

I believe there is a thread with a detailed discussion on Layl Tul Qadr.

Shams

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:41 am

ShamsB wrote: I believe there is a thread with a detailed discussion on Layl Tul Qadr.

Shams

Doctrines --> Laila-tul-Qadr

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php ... l+tul+qadr

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 pm

There are total 17 different chhantas which we have to niyat when we approachs to Mukhi/Kamadia sahebans for 'DU'A KARAVAVI' but in Ismaili.net only 15 chhanta's discription has given; BELOW ARE THESE TWO CHHANTAS WHICH YOU CAN ALSO NIYAT IT ALONGWITH OTHER 15 CHHANTAS":-
1, CHHADIDARNO CHHANTO
2, MAHADANNO ( DAY OF JUDGEMENT/ KAYAMAT)CHHANTO.
These two chhantas are explained beautifully in "Laitul Kadra" waezes of Rai Abu Ali Azizbhai, interesting members are requested to listen his waezs.

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:42 pm

There are total 17 different chhantas which we have to niyat when we approachs to Mukhi/Kamadia sahebans for Du;a Karavavi; but in this website only 15 chhanta's detail has been given BELOW ARE THE NAME OF THESE TWO CHHANTAS WHICH YOU CAN ALSO NIYAT ALONGWITH OTHER 15 CHHANTAS MENTIONED ABOVE":-
1, CHHADIDARNO CHHANTO
2, MAHADANNO ( DAY OF JUDGEMENT/ KAYAMAT)CHHANTO.
The detail of these two chhantas are explained beautifully in "Laitul Kadra" waezes of Rai Abu Ali Azizbhai, interesting members are requested to listen his waezs.

nuseri · Post by **nuseri** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:47 pm

We Ismailies are blessed with life after life from Moula ALI's time.If we understand the kalima,and Imams farman N statement of
naming souls n person as same and not as akin to or in alerogical stance.
Here is a poem expressing my this phase of Life.Please try to understand the deeper(baatin) meaning of Bayat,Maad n Qiyamat
DE THI BAYAT TUJ KO ALI JAB HUIE THI ELAAN TERI.
WO THI BAYAT QAYAMAT TAK KI,YAAD KAR TU USKO ALI.
BAKSHA RAHA ZINDHAGI MUJHE,SAATH JABEE KE TERE ALI.
WO SARI THI ZINDAGHI TERI,YEH BHI ZINDHAGI TERI ALI.
ZINDHAGI AAGE DEH TE REHNAA ,KHUBH KIDHMAT LENA ALI.
YAHI HAI MAAD QIYAMAT MERI,YEHI HAI BAYAT KA MAINA ALI.

It is simple in our deshi basha. Certain phrases cannot be translated perfectly in English, as there can be a loss of essence in doing that.

www.ismaili.net

Char jug no chanto

Char jug no chanto

Re: Char jug no chanto

Re: Char jug no chanto

Re: Char jug no chanto

Re: Char jug no chanto

I dnt know much

Re: Char jug no chanto

Re: Char jug no chanto