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Copied from Reddit Ismaili Esoteric Interpretation of "Ayat al Noor" Ayah al Noor ”Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, and the lamp is in a glass, the glass is as though it were a glittering star; it is lit from a blessed tree, an Ol...

Copied from Reddit Concept of Eternal Imamat by Pir Sadardin In the Ginan “Aad to Alakh Agiyo Ramiyo” Pir Sadardin explains the concept of Eternal Imamat using the hundred years of life of the Universal Intellect. In our Ginanic literature, the word Brahma is used for Noor e Muhammad, or Universal I...

Gibbon may have been whatever you think or maybe not but some of the facts he reported are right though his interpretation of facts maybe corrupted by the funny and crooked ideas of the Orientalists of his time. The declaration of Imam Hakim as tenth manifestation of God has been reported by many h...

From the balcony of his palace, Imam Hakim made a declaration to thousands of people: "I am the tenth manifestation of God" Historians said he was mad. Ismailis say he was telling the truth which non-Ismailis could never understand. (Sharia and Haqiqah are two paths worlds apart, they sha...

From the balcony of his palace, Imam Hakim made a declaration to thousands of people: "I am the tenth manifestation of God" Historians said he was mad. Ismailis say he was telling the truth which non-Ismailis could never understand. (Sharia and Haqiqah are two paths worlds apart, they sha...

In Naklanki Geeta, there are additional names in the list of the manifestations of the light of Imamat. NOOR UN ALA NOOR 1. IMAM AHUNAH (AHUNKAAR) - Ego 2. IMAM ALAKH - Beyond Perception 3. IMAM NAAMNIL - Without Name 4. IMAM ANIL - Wind 5. IMAM SOON 6. IMAM SAAN (SHAAM) 7. IMAM NAAN (MAAN) 8. IMAM ...

These are indeed years. A total of 4.32 million years for 4 jugs. According to science, first Homo (Homo Habilis) appeared on earth some 2.6 million years ago. Vaman Avatar was the first Homo. Based on above calculations by Pirs, Vaman Avatar appeared 2.592 million i.e. 2.6 million years ago on Earth.

Resurrecting this thread after 18 years

Does anyone has the text (Gujarati, English, Urdu etc) of Vis Tol Granth?

A lot of the issues in the minds of our youth can be solved if ITREB, Council, etc. manage to make them understand that the Imam of the time has the authority to change or abandon Shariah based on the circumstances, but the essence of our faith remains the same. What happened in our JKs during COVID...

In past 45 years did IIS produced any tall figure like Nasir Khusraw, Al Kirmani, Qazi Noaman, Mueed Shirazi, Sijistani and others I want to add one thing here, neither you nor me know the spiritual rank of a murid. We don't know the spiritual ranks of those Ismailis who are doing research work and...

In past 45 years did IIS produced any tall figure like Nasir Khusraw, Al Kirmani, Qazi Noaman, Mueed Shirazi, Sijistani and others I want to add one thing here, neither you nor me know the spiritual rank of a murid. We don't know the spiritual ranks of those Ismailis who are doing research work and...

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...

Twice you mentioned in your posts 'merged with light of Muhammad" neglecting Noor e Ali. By the way who was created first, Universal Intellect or Universal soul. And twice I have mentioned that Ali and Mohammad are One not Two. Universal Intellect -- 1st Universal Soul -- 2nd Both are the Mani...

So where you will fit Baab and Abwaab? Indeed Imam is the Proof of God, his physical presence in the world since the beginning is the proof that God exist and manifest himself in the Imam. Pir/Bab is indeed Proof of Imam, without Pir you cannot attain Imam. “Nabi Mohammad Bujo to tame pamsho Imam”....

Imam don't has to declare who is his Bab or Hujjah currently, sometimes we have to use our intellect and there is no harm in it. Quran, Ginans and Farman are the example of how we have to use our intellect to interpret it. It's my interpretation that if Imam declared Sabz Ali as Pir Sabz Ali after ...

In discussion of HAQA'IQ there is no room for assumption or suppose. Who is male or female Baab in time of Shah Karim? There is a room for assumption in esoteric deen, assumptions is a sign of using your intellect and our religion is a religion of intellect. You hear/read then you assume, then you ...

In Fatimid era the basic form of the Ismaili da‘wah hierarchy was as follows: 1. Imam 2. Bab (Gate) 3. Hujjah (Proof) 4. Da‘i (Summoner) 5. Ma’dhun Akbar (Senior Teacher) 6. Ma’dhun Asghar (Junior Teacher) 7. Mustajib (Respondent or Initiate)" In post Alamout period the hierarchy of da'wah was...

Alwaiz Abu Ali has written in his book "Ismaili Tariqah"; THE IMAM IS HUJJATULLAH (THE PROOF OF GOD) AND THE KHALIFATULLAH (THE VICEREGENT OF GOD); THE PIR IS HUJJATUL IMAM AND KHALIFATUR RASUL. THE PIR IS LINK BETWEEN THE JAMAIT AND THE IMAM. (Page # 132) He is not wrong. So where you wi...

swamidada wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:24 pm Alwaiz Abu Ali has written in his book "Ismaili Tariqah";

THE IMAM IS HUJJATULLAH (THE PROOF OF GOD) AND THE KHALIFATULLAH (THE VICEREGENT OF GOD); THE PIR IS HUJJATUL IMAM AND KHALIFATUR RASUL. THE PIR IS LINK BETWEEN THE JAMAIT AND THE IMAM. (Page # 132)

He is not wrong.

In Fatimid era the basic form of the Ismaili da‘wah hierarchy was as follows: 1. Imam 2. Bab (Gate) 3. Hujjah (Proof) 4. Da‘i (Summoner) 5. Ma’dhun Akbar (Senior Teacher) 6. Ma’dhun Asghar (Junior Teacher) 7. Mustajib (Respondent or Initiate)" In post Alamout period the hierarchy of da'wah was...

Salman Farsi was from Ahl Bait therefore he became Baab. Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah declared Wazir Muhammad Remu, Wazir Basariya, and Wazir Rahim were amongst Ahl Bait, but Imam never declared who was Baab or ALL 3 were Baabs. What about Wazir Ismail Gangji and Pir Subz Ali, did they not deserved th...

"3 sons and 2 grand sons", Please refer to PREAMBLE article 3. I quote," It being the absolute prerogative of the Imam of the time to appoint his successor from amongst any of his MALE descendants whether they be sons or REMOTER ISSUE. Currently we have 5 Possibilities and it's a FAC...

Did Hazar Imam declared Princess Zahra is one of the Baab, you wrote we assume. What about Princess Salima first wife of Hazar Imam, was she a Baab? or after divorce Baab title was taken away!!? Again, I have clearly mentioned that we can ASSUME. You are free to assume who could be the female Bab o...

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...

I won't be surprised if Salman is part of Alif Laam Meem. As per the early Ismaili thought, Salman Farsi was the person who reached or his soul annihilated in the Universal Soul. That's why as per the Fatimid and Post Fatimid Ismaili interpretations, Salman Farsi is one of the four Bab under the Im...