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by atharvedi
Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:08 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Jaake paachm dise me khand Eraaq maanhe
Replies: 30
Views: 62693

To brother Nuseri: Mowla Ali Madad Q) Is this Ginan in particular banned/unfit for reading n circulation for our Jamaat now? A) I am not aware of any Farman made by Shah Karim or any other I mam saying the above ginan is ban. My guess is you have not read the above Farman properly or at least unders...
by atharvedi
Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:52 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Jaake paachm dise me khand Eraaq maanhe
Replies: 30
Views: 62693

To brother Nuseri, The above is one of the interpretation of many. You are most welcome to share your interpretation we might learn something from it. As Mowla says in his Farman that our Farmans and each and every line of ginan has thousand meanings. It is all down to what you believe.... You are a...
by atharvedi
Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:25 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Pir - Peera, any relation? title? meaning of Peera?
Replies: 2
Views: 4826

Ya Ali Madad As far as I am aware there is no difference between Pir and Piraa it is just a different way of saying in different language. In Marathi (Maharashtrian) language both these word can be used depend on how it has been used in a sentence. Below is one example from another ginan it is a deb...
by atharvedi
Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:03 am
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Significance of Darbari - Pir ji Mani
Replies: 5
Views: 12972

Pir ji maani and Mehmaani dudh

This is what my understanding is and also heard in waez (Missionary Abualy) about Mehmaani & Pirji Maani. I am open for any corrections and or comments. I agree with Admin that there is no such thing as dardaabri in our tariqha. People introduce certain things unknowingly which later becomes tra...
by atharvedi
Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:59 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan - Translation
Replies: 0
Views: 4008

Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan - Translation

Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan By Pir Hassan Kabirdin Tune: Budh Avataar / Khatt Nirinjan Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan, sarve jivun kaa thaapiyaa dhaam 1 1. Pir Hasan Kabirdin says: Obey Hazrat Ali (a.s.) who is manifest, who created holy places for all souls. Chor muk...
by atharvedi
Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:39 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Raag for Ginan - Laavo Laavo Ghass Ba(n)dhaavo Trattee
Replies: 6
Views: 6717

Hope you received my email and got your answer.
by atharvedi
Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:41 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Raag for Ginan - Laavo Laavo Ghass Ba(n)dhaavo Trattee
Replies: 6
Views: 6717

The traditional tune of this ginan is the same tune as 'Satpa(n)th Vahoree Viraa Alagaa Na Rahi-e' but there is also another tune in use or available. I myself learned the other tune and then introduce to the traditional tune.
by atharvedi
Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:42 am
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Significance of Chalismo
Replies: 2
Views: 10427

I am not aware of any farman on above by MHI, but the guide lines are that once the burial take place the family should perform the chaalismo ceremony within a week or so due to the busy lifestyle. As this helps the close family members to get on with their lives. It also helps to those members who ...
by atharvedi
Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:07 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Which ginan is this by pir sadardeen? Eji Aad to alakh agiya
Replies: 1
Views: 4251

I guess you are looking for this ginan where we can find the explanation of Das Avatar in detail. The first couple of verses explains the concept of Noor and bit of Surah Ikhalas. While back I did attempt to understand and created its meaning in English. However, it is very difficult and still needs...
by atharvedi
Fri May 25, 2012 8:40 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Vali vali nar maa(n)hi maa(n)hi ramase
Replies: 3
Views: 5224

Private messaging has been disabled on this board

Thank you for the alternate meaning for the word 'hoonar' as you know that the translation was not done by me so I cannot amend. Regarding the email it is easier if you email me as you have my email. To access the private msg I think we both have to be online at the same time to read them or else yo...
by atharvedi
Thu May 24, 2012 12:16 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Vali vali nar maa(n)hi maa(n)hi ramase
Replies: 3
Views: 5224

Vali vali nar maa(n)hi maa(n)hi ramase

Vali vali nar maa(n)hi maa(n)hi ramase Sayyed Imam Shah Vali vali nar maanhi maanhi ramshe ... ... ke ho jire bhaai 1 1. O brother! The Lord is manifest in each one or the Lord will repeatedly enact a play. Vali nar vinaa koi hunar na karshe - ke ho 2 2. O brother! Except for that Lord no one will ...
by atharvedi
Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:07 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: The Association for the Study of Ginans
Replies: 19
Views: 41967

Ginan Seminar (London, UK) Sunday 22 April 2012

Association for the Study of Ginans Ya Ali Madad The Programme for the Ginan Seminar to take place at the Comfort Hotel Harrow on Sunday 22 April 2012 is given below. PROGRAMME 10.30 Registration & Refreshments 10.55 Welcome Musa Sheikh 11.00 Ginan Explanation 1 Jaake pachham dise Platinum Rahem...
by atharvedi
Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:23 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Ginan with Future Prediction
Replies: 56
Views: 77060

Thanks for sharing the ginanic proof. I also add the link in which you made translation of "Jake Pachham Des ne" , it is a good ginan and great translation on the subject of Zahurat, sorry I forgeted before. Please note the translation of the ginan I shared in the other post was not done ...
by atharvedi
Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:05 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Ginan with Future Prediction
Replies: 56
Views: 77060

Thaavar raat confusion

Below are some sources where I find meaning of Thawar Rat as Thursday not Friday:- 1, As per the " Ananat Akhado" most reliable Ginan on "Zahurat" , the menaing of Thawar Rat is given as Thursday. 2, I also asked same question to one senior, she has lots of knowledge in ginans a...
by atharvedi
Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:44 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Ginan with Future Prediction
Replies: 56
Views: 77060

Another reference

Amir, Are you sure? about "THAWAR RAT"? as per my understanding ""Thawar rat" means Thursday night"but I will recheck it again tonight. Another reference from someone you know. Eji Dhan dhan rahenni aaj nu din ralliaamann-ji dhan saa beej, chandr thaavar vaariaa; rang ...
by atharvedi
Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:54 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Ginan with Future Prediction
Replies: 56
Views: 77060

Friday Night

Ya Ali Madad Brother agakhani Thaavar Raat means Friday night and not Thursday night. However, the battle (war) will end on Thursday but the coronation ceremony ((Shaah-jo viaa(n)) will be on Friday. Hope this helps. BTW: Thursday is Bhrahespati vaar . yaaraa tith satai(n) maa rohonn nakhshatra sa(n...
by atharvedi
Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:21 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa meaning and explanation.
Replies: 0
Views: 3175

Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa meaning and explanation.

Ya Ali Madad Please find the ginan Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa with meaning and explanation. Note: This is not the translation of the ginan it is one of the interpretation according to my understanding. Kind regards Atharvedi Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa [/b] Author: Sayed Imaam Shaah Sec...
by atharvedi
Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:41 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Lobh savaarath-e jiv tun bhulio - Meaning
Replies: 4
Views: 7309

Gist much appreciated! Is this Ginan also to the raaga of "Hete su(n) milo maara munivaro" by chance? I know a few with the same raaga and same Sayyed so I think it kind of looks like it. If anyone knows, it would be appreciated. Thanks again Ya Ali Madad Here is the link for the above gi...
by atharvedi
Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:05 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Lobh savaarath-e jiv tun bhulio - Meaning
Replies: 4
Views: 7309

Lobh savaarath-e jiv tun bhulio - Meaning

Ya Ali Madad Please find the ginan with meaning. 'Lobh savaarath-e jiv tun bhulio' I did this while back when I was lerning, and open for any correction. Note: This is not the translation of the ginan it is one of the meaning or interpretation according to my shallow understanding, forgive me for an...
by atharvedi
Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:03 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DOES "LAW OF KARMA" APPLY IN ISLAM?
Replies: 34
Views: 28304

Ya Ali Madad I am sure most of us as will unanimously agree that Imams' word in form of Farman is final and has the higher authority than any other sacred text. Obviously only to the Ismailis as we are His spiritual children and many a time He shares some secrets with us and these are not available ...
by atharvedi
Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:31 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DOES "LAW OF KARMA" APPLY IN ISLAM?
Replies: 34
Views: 28304

Ismaili point of view...

There is no such thing called rules of Karam, infact rules and regulations (DOs & DONT) are set by our Shah-Pir. We as Ismaili believe in Karma. ejee dosh dayaal jee ne kee-u(n) kar deeje karam leekheeyaa sohee paave.................................7 Why should we blame our Merciful Lord for our...
by atharvedi
Wed May 11, 2011 3:51 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: The Association for the Study of Ginans
Replies: 19
Views: 41967

Sounds & Spaces of Muslim Piety - Interviews (video)

Ya Ali Madad Please find video links related to the recent conference. The Canadian Centre for Ethnomusicology at the University of Alberta, in partnership with the Association for the Study of Ginans presented. Sounds & Spaces of Muslim Piety: Tradition and Transformation A conference exploring...
by atharvedi
Tue May 10, 2011 9:12 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: mowla in dreams
Replies: 20
Views: 13596

Kalame Imame Mubin, Farman no. 77, Jamnagar 12th Nov 1903 "Agar koi kahe ke, Saaheb khwaabmaa(n) aave chhe to te badhu(n) jutthu(n) chhe. Ame koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aavataa nathi. Te badhaa ddho(n)g chhe; agar koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aave to pann te mannas bolto nathi. Koine amaaro lebaas, paheraavi ...
by atharvedi
Mon May 09, 2011 8:19 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: mowla in dreams
Replies: 20
Views: 13596

Farman on 'Mowla comes in dream' KIM Farman #77

Farman o­n 'Mowla comes in dream' KIM Farman #77 Kalame Imame Mubin, Farman no. 77, Jamnagar 12th Nov 1903 "Agar koi kahe ke, Saaheb khwaabmaa(n) aave chhe to te badhu(n) jutthu(n) chhe. Ame koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aavataa nathi. Te badhaa ddho(n)g chhe; agar koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aave to pann te man...
by atharvedi
Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:10 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Jaake paachm dise me khand Eraaq maanhe
Replies: 30
Views: 62693

waez number 632 (Missionary Abualy).

From the waez number 632 (Missionary Abualy). Please note the translation of this ginan is not done by me, it is done by sevenlights one of the member of ismailinet forum. Eji Jaake paachham dise ne khanddh eraak maanhe setar dip minjaar ho ji; ghar sar vadhaayun tiyaan bahu range hoe se, ne raaj ka...
by atharvedi
Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:47 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: The Association for the Study of Ginans
Replies: 19
Views: 41967

Update bulletin No: 3 for the upcoming Conference at Univers

Association for the Study of Ginans Memo from: Pyarali Jiwa, Chairperson Date: 17 March 2011 Ya Ali Madad Preparations are progressing well for the Conference at the University of Alberta at Edmonton, Canada on Friday 29 April, Saturday 30 April and Sunday 1 May 2011. The Association is Co-sponsor o...
by atharvedi
Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:57 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: The Association for the Study of Ginans
Replies: 19
Views: 41967

24 Speakers.....

I think there are altogether 24 speakers from around the globe delivering the lecture/talk. From these 12 will be ginan related.
by atharvedi
Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:46 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Ginan - Eji tuj re vina ame eklaa
Replies: 7
Views: 31962

Yes, raag is the same as the one for the Ginan: Paratak Paatrane Parakhine. If anyone knows wordings (by heart or written) and can provide wordings, I will really appreciate it. Tuj Vinaa ame eklaa Pir Sadardin (Unpublished ginan) Tune: U(n)chaa re kott / Partak paatra ne / Kherro kherro jema ni na...
by atharvedi
Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:31 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya - Translation
Replies: 0
Views: 2545

Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya - Translation

Below is a tentative translation of the ginan 'Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya' . I am open for any correction or comments. Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya Pir Sadardin Jug dwaapur me jagan aadhariyo tiyaa(n) rikhiye(n) ku(n) teddi bolyaavyaa ..Saami 1 In Dwaapur joog they (Bhramins) performed yagna a...
by atharvedi
Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:54 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa - Unpublished ginan of PIR SHAMS
Replies: 2
Views: 4319

Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa - Unpublished ginan of PIR SHAMS

Below is an unpublished ginan with the meaning, final version put together with the help of few people. Still open for any correction or comments. Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa Unpublished ginan of PIR SHAMS Many thanks to the people who helped in the translation. Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa Unpublished...