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- Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:38 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: can humans BE God?
- Replies: 290
- Views: 132860
Re: Amin
YAM Amin, the question I was asking you, Can you become Amin? and why? Anyone else who cares to answer, would be appreciated. YAM Shams Shams, not sure if I'm picking up your questioning accurately, but here's my 2 bits: Amin cannot "become" Amin as he is already Amin. It is the knowledge...
- Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:15 pm
- Forum: Ginans
- Topic: Why Ginans with music were banned?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10960
In my humble opinion, 1. Ismaili Ginans are sacred. So much so that I heard from someone (may have been one of the really good Al-Waez) that even MHI listens to them (at low volume levels) while He goes about doing His work in His office. 2. Ismaili Ginans are sacred because they were entirely compo...
- Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:54 pm
- Forum: Ginans
- Topic: kamauddin missionary and Ginans
- Replies: 31
- Views: 33456
Re: Not worth it
It's not worth it talking to anyone about it..since according tothem i am east african and less of an ismaili and less knowledgable than they are in matters of the faith. ShamsB I can certainly say the issue is not specifically with or toward African Ismailis. It is on a different level and covers ...
- Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:45 pm
- Forum: Ginans
- Topic: Saloko Naano Granth by PIR SADARDEEN
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10126
- Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:20 pm
- Forum: Ginans
- Topic: Saloko Naano Granth by PIR SADARDEEN
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10126
Saloko Naano Granth by PIR SADARDEEN
Ya Ali Madad I was wondering if anyone has researched or well familiarized themselves with philosophy and meaning of Saloko Naano Granth (Satgur Kahere) by Pir Sadardeen. To get this post started, I am particularly interested in part 8: satgur kahere prem bhagatee to radeh vase ane antar leh lagaay ...
- Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: where a bad person go after death in ismailism
- Replies: 47
- Views: 33015
Re: Reincarnation in Islam
or i am quoting the holy quran here..this is in the quran because i researched it for an alwaez who claimed that reincarnation was a hindu concept and MSMS and MHI made farmans to placate some people... Sura Baqarah [2.28] How do you deny Allah and you were dead and He gave you life? Again He will ...
- Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:17 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Where was Jesus's Birth Place????????????
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5464
Re: Birthplace
Shamsu, please elaborate.shamsu wrote:PurityWhere was Jesus's Birth Place????????????
Purity is where Haq is born.
Mariam was Pure and Isa was Haqiqati.
hope u all get what I am trying to say.
Shams
- Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:47 pm
- Forum: Anecdotes
- Topic: Honey bees
- Replies: 25
- Views: 31663
Re: Bees are Ismailies
What is "ummat"?shamsu wrote: Prince Aly Khan said that these are the ummat of my grandfather do not break this beehive.
Re: Book
How 'bout it Dr. Shamsu? Would you kindly share the Farman book with me? My last email out to you must not have reached you.shamsu wrote:I have extra copies of that farman book but the whole thing is in gujrati.
Let me know if you want the book. email me [email protected].
Thanks
- Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:22 pm
- Forum: Pen Pal and Contact info.
- Topic: Re: This site
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3247
Re: This site
<P>Im a proud ismaili. However, when a lot of non-ismailis ask me questions about our faith/beliefs/etc...I have not been able to give them a clear answer...is it okie to direct them to this website ??? or is it solely for us ismailis?</P> YAM From what I've read in other forums, according...
- Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:13 pm
- Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
- Topic: Hai Zinda /Qayam Paya
- Replies: 26
- Views: 30729
Re: haizinda
This is what I remember from hearing it Gur Gat Jamat ke haizinda It appears we are addressing Gur (Pir) and Gat Jamat (All present Ismailies) that (Shah) is alive and present. Qayam Paya to me means He is ours for eternity. Another way to look at it--Qayam is one of the names of Allah. So it could...
Once Gandhi Came in Jamat Khana and ismailis were drinking Niyaz. Gandhi asked Mukhi can I drink it? Missionary stopped it and said it is only for those who have made bayyat to Imam.You can not drink it. Ginan was being recited at that time sugra ho so bhar bhar pyee nugra jayee pyaassa The one who...
- Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:55 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Sirat-e-Mustakeem & Gumrah (Misleed)
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6066
Re: Sirat-e-mustaqim & Goomrahi
YAM Alinizar, what does aqabat mean in English? Would that be the "hereafter"?alinizar313 wrote: The one is actually goomrah in real term who lost the aqabat for this material world.
- Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:35 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: genes and religion
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5766
Re: genetic arguement
lets take alcoholism it is genetic but if the person never ever tastes alcohol will there ever be a problem? similarly most genetically decided issues can been seen with the eye of obedience to the farmans of the Imame Zaman Shams Interesting point Shamsu. What happens to those who are born in a fa...
- Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:01 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Cause of the diseases?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5122
Re: Diseases MSM
Well, in that case, may Mawla Bless you with continued development of Inner knowledge and the desire to continue to share with others.kmaherali wrote:
This is Imam SMS's experience. Not mine. I recommend everyone to read this particular page of "Memoirs" - page 307.
Thanks for the clarification.
- Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: meta physics and ismailism
- Replies: 10
- Views: 10087
Re: KNOWLEDGE AND LIBERATION BY PIR NASIR KHUSHROW
Thanks for the reference Shams. Where does one get this book from? Is it in English (I hope)?shamsu wrote:READ THIS BOOK AND YOU WILL START TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF ISMAILISM
GIRBAVALI OF PIR SADARDDIN WILL HELP A LOT IN UNDERSTANDING THE LINK BETWEEN METAPHYSICS AND ISMAILISM
SHAMS
- Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:56 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Sirat-e-Mustakeem & Gumrah (Misleed)
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6066
Re: Intent
So, Mr. "ex-missionary", are you somewhere from Dallas?shamsu wrote: I think I must have been a missionary in a previous life
SHAMS
- Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Cause of the diseases?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5122
Re: Diseases MSM
In recent years, since the end of the Second World War, I have had a great deal of illness-enough, I suppose, in its content as in its prolongation in time, to have depressed me. I have undergone three major internal operations, two of them with what is ordinarily considered a fifty-fifty chance of...
- Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:31 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Names of imam in the last part!
- Replies: 28
- Views: 24979
Re: Imam Alyshah
Dear Shamsu, please define Afzal.shamsu wrote:I have heard froma reliable source that there is a farman of Imam Alyshah which says that in all types of ibadaat bandagi's Dua is Afzal because it has the names of Imams in it.
Shams
Thanks
- Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: can humans BE God?
- Replies: 290
- Views: 132860
Re: can humans BE God?
Yes I said AT LEAST at Haqiqati level to allow for the ambiguity because of his dual role as Shah and Peer. Therefore Haqiqati level is the minimum level of his existence and offcourse he could also be "He who is above all else" at the highest. When a momin reaches the Haqiqati level he i...
- Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: teaching of ismailism personally
- Replies: 26
- Views: 19092
Do you know that basic things like concept of Niyaz,hai zinda,sukreet are taught in HRE level. YAM All, What is HRE? Here, I'd like to present my humble opinion. It is, of course, open for discussion. I believe there is a farman of MHI, when He's reflecting on the future of the youth in our Jamat, ...
- Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:05 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: can humans BE God?
- Replies: 290
- Views: 132860
Re: can humans BE God?
The difference between a momin and the Imam is that the momin needs Ibaadat for the elevation of his soul. The Imam is always at least at Haqiqati level. He does not need Ibaadat. He guides others to Haqiqati level. In this respect His presence will always be needed. When a momin becomes Haqiqati t...
Re: Khangi Farman of Imam SMS
Dear Nargis, The farman you are talking about is the famous Farman about Jismani rasto (physical path) and the ruhani rasto (spiritual path) and then there is the bhedsaed walo rasto (mixed up path). If I can make the time I may translate it for you but only if ADMIN allows me to on this forum othe...
- Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:05 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Golden Jubilee - 2006
- Replies: 54
- Views: 52336
Re: Golden Jubilee - 2006
YAM to all, hope everyone is keeping well I wanted to create this topic about the Golden Jubilee of our beloved, Mawlana Shah Karim Al-Huseyni which is comming up very very soon. What are some ways we can make our beloved Imam- E- Zaman happy? How can we renew our baiyat we have given him and make ...
- Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: "jeeve" and "soul"
- Replies: 7
- Views: 12160
Re: jeeve and soul
soul actually refers to nafs or the conscience. The conscience of man exists in 3 states nafs-e-amara = animal desire nafs-e-lavama= guiding conscience nafs-e-mutmaina=a peaceful conscience. The way I came up with nafs is that in the Quran the word nafs occurs multiple times and its english transla...
- Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: Four type of Deedar
- Replies: 123
- Views: 101533
Re: Deedar
YAM K, If we are going to embark upon this futile mission let me say a few things. In moti venti and BrahmPrakash it is mentioned aap mit nij aap samay in another ginan it is mentioned sarita saher ma samani OK Another Ginan states Yeh to maati ke putle, jisae mai japau jaap. Shams, great arguments...
- Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:01 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: where a bad person go after death in ismailism
- Replies: 47
- Views: 33015
Re: Noor
To become one with noor of Allah... When were you ever seperated from the noor of Allah in the first place? Ginans say "Noor ae rachiyo sansar" The breath you take-----was it not created from the Noor of Allah. So can it be any different from Allah. Whatever we can experience through our ...
- Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: can humans BE God?
- Replies: 290
- Views: 132860
Re: Noor
shamsu wrote: Imammat nu Noor = Farmans
Aly nu Noor = Bol
He who is above all else = He who is above all else
Shams
Isn't Imammat's Noor the very same Aly's Noor? If so, then Imam's Noor is Bol (as well as Farman), such as Aly's Noor is Bol (and Farman).